Episode 75

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20th Mar 2025

75. The Announcement Episode

In this episode we chat about what's going on in our lives, share some life changing news, and announce the new seasoned approach.

Going forward, we'll be releasing 10 episodes at a time, starting June 5th 2025.

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Hello everyone, and welcome to

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another episode of The Operations

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Room, a podcast for Carlos.

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I am Brandon Metzinger, joined by my

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lovely co-host Bethany Errors.

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So today we have a very unusual

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episode. I wouldn't even call it an

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episode. I think it's just a bit of

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a PSA announcement for Brandon

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and Bethany, I think.

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I think we can still call it an

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episode. Here we go.

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Debating already starting it.

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You also didn't ask me how I was.

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Oh yeah, he right.

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I just cut straight to the chase.

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How are you, Bethany?

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I'm exhausted

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and I'm sure many of you have

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seen the news now, although not

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everyone.

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But peak was acquired

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by UiPath

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earlier this week, and

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so that might be

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for those keen listeners of you

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noticing that I've not been around

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quite as much as usual, or maybe

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sharing as much as I have in the

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past, because it has been

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an unbelievably exhausting

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an intense period event

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in my life.

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Done ten fundraising rounds.

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And I thought raising money was

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Bessemer was the hardest thing I've

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ever done in my life.

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And now this beats

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it by miles.

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Would that be the right word to use?

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That sounds about right.

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Just massive.

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So that

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plus Brandon, I don't know.

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Do you want to share your news?

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Yeah. So I have transitioned

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from consulting over the past two

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years back to full time employment.

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So I've now joined an organization

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called Orbital Witness.

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And I've been there now for

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three weeks. So getting back into

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the full time groove.

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I think from a mental

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mindshare, focus and effort

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point of view feels different from

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consulting this with consulting.

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You know, you kind of drop in and

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you tell them useful things.

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You do a bit of work here and there

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or deliverables and so on, but

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you're only responsible for like a

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very limited task that you're

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trying to deliver on.

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Whereas being in a company full

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time, it's like you need to

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do two things at once, which is

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start to provide immediate value as

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soon as possible on the right

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things, but also very much

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understand the business in totality

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and start to think and shape the

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business for what you need to

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achieve over the next 12, 18, 24

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months. So I think just purely from

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a focus standpoint, I think both for

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yourself and myself, the past

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couple of weeks have been a little

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bit different.

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A little bit different is slightly

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understatement. Like drowning

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underwater is

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maybe what it has been for me.

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I noticed a difference in what was

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happening.

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Our calendar and scheduling between

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the two of us was getting harder.

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And then I noticed in our

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conversations you were also

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more tired than usual.

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So there's a bit of a combination of

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things happening. And it wasn't

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until quite recently that you shared

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the news with me in terms of the

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acquisition itself.

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So then retrospectively, it all made

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sense of like, oh, okay, this this

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makes tremendous sense.

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It's really difficult because it's

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all under NDA.

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You can't share the news with

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anybody.

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And just being able to say, oh, work

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is really busy is just such an

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understatement, but there's nothing

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else to be able to share.

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And so when the news went

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live this week, it was such

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a relief to finally be able to say

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to friends and family, to

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you, Brandon, to so many

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people. This is why you haven't

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seen me since January.

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This is why I'm exhausted and short

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tempered. Like letting my children

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know that like their absent mother

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was for this reason.

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You're lost in the abyss and vortex

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of an acquisition.

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Well, but it's not only that, but

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it's the fact that it's all under

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NDA. And so you can't share it with

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anybody. There's, like, no release

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valve. It's just very

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lonely. An intense place to be.

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So I'm very happy I can talk about

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it.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So the burden is lifted.

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What does that mean for our podcast

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now going forward? So now that I'm

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back full time, you're

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in this new world of the acquisition

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and this larger parent company and

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into a slightly different role

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perhaps. I know, but podcast

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wise, where are we at?

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Don't worry. We're not setting you

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up for a.

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And this is the last episode of

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the Operations Room, which it might

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sound like.

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What we're going to be doing is

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moving to seasons, and

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seasons will just make it more

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possible for us to continue the

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podcast, let's say.

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So our plan is

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to produce ten

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episode seasons multiple

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times through the year.

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I don't think we can quite commit to

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how many multiple times throughout

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the year that will be, and that way

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we can continue to

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source great guests,

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have the energy to do great

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interviews, and share our insights

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without it being a scramble

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at the last day of the week.

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And so, Brandon, when can they

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expect our next episode?

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So we will drop our first inaugural

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proper season come June 5th.

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So we're looking at a few months

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from now, but rest assure

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that we will deliver a

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great season for you.

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We have some great guests that are

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lined up and I think the reality

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between the two of us is that, you

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know, as real practitioners of the

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craft we're living at,

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you know, this is not armchair or c

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those that are retired post five

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years type of thing where you're in

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the grind alongside of everyone

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else. You know, in terms of our

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listeners, the life that we live in,

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the kind of the experiences that we

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have and that we can share back to

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the community.

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Thanks for mentioning community,

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Brandon. So what we're also

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doing is

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making sure that

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you still have

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great content and access

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to us as we switch in two seasons.

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So there's two things that

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I asking you to do today.

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The first one is, if you've not

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subscribed to our Substack already,

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please go and subscribe.

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It's the operations room on

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Substack.

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We are going to be

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turning a lot of

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our previous content,

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insights, ideas,

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advice from our guests into

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tools that you can use

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to easily embed what

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we've learned, what you've learned

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into your working life.

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And we're going to be giving you

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guides on

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how to run weekly

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meetings. What cadences

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work for us, what don't, what

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kind of 1 to 1

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agendas you should be running,

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and also list a bunch of resources

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that our guests have shared over

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the years.

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So please do

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sign up to our Substack and get

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weekly content that way.

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We are also launching a

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community. We're going to try it on

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WhatsApp because I hate slack

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communities and I don't understand

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Mighty Networks.

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Yeah, it's not great.

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I would say it's not.

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And then the slack ones are just

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really noisy and there's 400

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different channels. And I already

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work with slack all the time.

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So we are going to be

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launching a WhatsApp community.

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We don't quite know how it's going

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to go, so we're going to limit it to

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a founding 50 members

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if you would like to be part of that

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founding 50.

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Please go to our

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LinkedIn, our website

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speaker notes.

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Find the link there to join.

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We're going to be offering a monthly

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Ask Me Anything between me and

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Brandon.

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Weekly topics and

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tips.

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Also exclusive behind the scenes

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content. Things that maybe we can't

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share in a wider audience,

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but we can share just with

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our founding 50.

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We'll also be asking members for

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your insights, what you've learned,

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tips and tricks for our

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audience as well, and will be

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having some exclusive giveaways

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for our community.

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So please go and

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have a look in any

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of the ways that you talk to the

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operations room and find the link

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for that.

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Wow, that sounds like a shit ton of

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stuff. So not only are we not

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canceling the podcast, we're in fact

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wrapping it up, but it's like we

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have seasons. We have all sorts of

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other things happening as well.

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So that sounds pretty phenomenal.

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I'm very excited.

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So with that, unless

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we want to talk about our

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experiences in the last few weeks.

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Find out what it's like to be

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acquired by a listed American

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company. I think that will

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definitely be one of the preambles

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that maybe I can get

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with a bit more, a bit more insight,

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with a little bit more distance.

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Right now, I'm still very much in

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the throes of it.

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And equally, I will be sharing

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experiences of the series B

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venture capital pathway

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for an organization where we're

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ramping into our metric sense.

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We're looking at a series B later

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this year where we're in the venture

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capital game years, and I'll also

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share that side of the equation.

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I'm reminiscing.

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Remembering those days.

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Yes, small and cute

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companies that are highly adorable.

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Oh, it sounds wonderful.

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So with that, why don't we park it

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here and we will see you in June?

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The Operations Room: A Podcast for COO’s
We are the COO coaches to help you successfully scale in this new world where efficiency is as important as growth. Remember when valuations were 3-10x ARR and money wasn’t free? We do. Each week we share our experiences and bring in scale up experts and operational leaders to help you navigate both the burning operational issues and the larger existential challenges. Beth Ayers is the former COO of Peak AI, NewVoiceMedia and Codilty and has helped raise over $200m from top funds - Softbank, Bessemer, TCV, MCC, Notion and Oxx. Brandon Mensinga is the former COO of Signal AI and Trint.

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